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Starting conversations
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Dating after divorce
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Chivalry and sexual tension
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***QUESTION***
Hi, Dave. I've recently separated after 13 years of marriage and was pretty
nervous about the dating scene. I was immediately thinking of all the wussy
stuff you're "supposed" to do on a first date and to attract a woman. By
chance, I got on your mailing list, and you answered the questions I had at
the perfect time. I realized that I need to do the same thing I've been
doing with women for the past 13 years--tease them and be funny. I was never
interested in dating my female friends, and I treated them as buddies, and
they always chatted and danced with me at parties and told my wife she was
lucky to have a guy like me. Thanks to you, I know that I can keep being my
cocky and funny self and I have a better chance of meeting women than by
fawning over them. The preliminary flirting and meeting I've done so far has
been good practice for me--I've gotten a few numbers, but more important,
have been learning from my mistakes when I don't get one, and I'm going to
get your ebook to learn even more so the mistakes become less frequent.
I do have a question though. I have been skimming the online dating sites,
and I find that over 90% of the women's profiles say they're looking for a
nice guy who will spend romantic evenings with them and be caring and
attentive and all the "wussy" stuff you decry. What gives? Does it make a
difference that the online women are looking for long-term relationships and
want something more stable, or are they fooling themselves and asking for
something they're really not attracted to but think they should be?
Thanks again for you help! You saved me from the Sahara Desert of Dating. R.B. Chicago, IL
David D. >>>MY COMMENTS:
Yes! You've asked one of my favorite questions of all time...
You're basically asking "Why is it that women all say that they want a guy
who acts like a WUSSY?". And more importantly, why is it that women actually
RESPOND to something totally different? Here it is in a nutshell:
We humans have NO IDEA what we REALLY want. We THINK that we know what we want, but we don't. We come into this world pre-programmed with all kinds of bizarre drives and
desires... but many of them are so strange that our cultures and religions
have made these natural drives "wrong".
Now, when you have a desire for something that is "wrong", what are you
going to do? You can't exactly run around saying "I want the thing that
everyone thinks is wrong". Of course not.
You'd be put in a looney bin and forced to take all kinds of medication.
Either that or you'd be a rock star. Whatever.
Look... I spent MANY YEARS of my life trying to get women to like me by
kissing up to them, being "nice", buying them thoughtful gifts, taking them
nice places, and generally being a complete WUSSBAG.
Did it work? Not so well.
Or course, I just figured that the reason that it wasn't working so well was
because I wasn't good-looking or rich enough. Only after spending a lot of
time learning from guys who were "naturally" good with women did I begin to
see what was REALLY going on. The fact is that if you ask most women what
they want in a man, they'll tell you that they want a "nice guy". They want
someone who is "A good communicator". They want someone who is kind,
thoughtful, and generous. I have a theory about this. It's a dangerous idea, though. I think that most women say that they want a nice, ass-kissing, Wussy guy
because... ...sit down for this... THEY CAN'T FIND ANY REAL MEN IN THE WORLD, SO THEY DECIDE THAT THEY'RE GOING
TO HAVE TO SETTLE FOR "NICE".
So stop paying attention to all this stuff that women SAY that they want,
and start doing the things I'm teaching you and getting RESULTS. Thanks for
your email. Good stuff.
***QUESTION***
hey my girl lives in wisconsin i aint see in her a while shes comin bac
tommow and possibly movin in wit her cousin 2 blocks from my house im
nervous what do i do
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Well, if I read your email right, I gather: 1) You are not so sharp with words. 2) Your "girl" is also from Wisconsin. 3) She's moving in with her cousin, which tells me that they're probably
getting married. 4) That doesn't surprise me, based on your email. If I were you, I'd go back to high school... Until then, use the spell-check feature on your email or word processor. Please.
***SUCCESS STORY***
Dear David,
David DeAngelo, you are truly a GENIUS! No, seriously, I love your work! I’m
writing to you from South Africa for two reasons. Firstly, I have to thank
you!
I have always been a jock. I was able to get almost any girl I wanted! There
were, however, those elusive few, the cream of the crop, that would never
fall for my charms. For heaven’s sake, no matter what I tried, I just did
not make the breakthrough! I was sure that I would forever have to do with
less than I really wanted.
For anyone listening out there: NEVER settle for less! Rather read THE BOOK!
I’ve been teasing, joking, telling girls what to do, what I want, prefer and
absolutely need, what is wrong with them (Jokingly of course), what they’re
doing that irritates me, basically saying and doing just what I want in a C
& F way. Suddenly the elusive few are like putty in my hands, telling me how
DIFFERENT (!!!) I am and how GOOD(???) I treat them! They even tell me that
I am “THE SWEETEST GUY EVER”! (This after doing everything possible to bust
their balls!?). IT’S UNBELIEVABLE! They ask ME for MY number (When I
obviously tell them please not to call me too much or ask whether they’re
always this eager or to please take it a bit slower) and what’s more, they
call ME, almost every time! Even their unknown friends call me. I am having
the TIME OF MY LIFE, and I’m ENJOYING IT EXTREMELY! My utmost thanks again,
David, you changed me from good to masterful.
Now for the second reason: Everyone that’s reading this letter, BUY THE
BOOK! I also have a lot of experience in chatting up girls, I have tried a
lot of approaches, and David DeAngelo’s stuff is so far THE MOST SUCCESSFUL!
I love you, man. Keep it up. PS. Read the book, “GET IT”, use it, become amazing!!! PPS. David, is it possible for me to get your video series in South Africa?
I would love to buy that as well.
W.A. , Pretoria, South Africa.
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Ah yes... it's amazing how these concepts will help you take your success
with women to the next level, no matter where you're at now. I get a lot of
email from guys who are handsome, successful, etc. who are finally enjoying
success with women... now that they're learning the most important part of
the equation. Thanks for your email. Oh yes, of course you can get my video program in South Africa. Just order it. I'll ship it to you.
***SUCCESS STORY***
Hey David D,
I got your Advanced CD series and it opened my eyes to a TOTALLY different
way of thinking. It's not just about pick up lines or techniques, you really
get into the psychology and evolution of why things happen and why we think
the way we do...it's really deep, I enjoyed it...I listened to the whole
thing in 3 days...really and I'm listening to it more and more. What I like
about it is that I can hear you and your voice tone when delivering some of
the techniques and answering questions from guys who have common
problems...I love it. I got it off of the free trial offer and no way am I
sending it back. It's deeper than anything I've ever heard and talks about
ATTRACTION, which is a subject no one ever talks about when it comes to
women yet its the most important part. If she's attracted to you, you're in,
if she's not, you're out...simple! Thats part of my success, feeling better
that I finally "get it" and starting to see the light. Something you said
made a LOT of sense...either you get it or you dont. If you get it, you'll
see success, if you dont, you wont. With that said, I want to share some
cocky+funny lines I've come up with on my own that work well for me:
"Hey, those are nice shoes. <pause...pause> Too bad some homeless kid is
running around barefoot right now!" "Those are some pretty earrings. I didnt know the toy store sold earrings
like that!" "What a cute ring (or watch or whatever)! Did you get that with the kids
meal at (fill in your local restaurant here)? (I cant believe this one works...) Like if a woman says something that
SHOULD be obvious to everyone else you say: "Duh!...You're acting more
blonde by the minute". And if the girl really is blonde, you can say: "Hey,
I thought everyone knew that! You dont have to ACT blonde you know!" This is
really pushing it but it works on most women.
Anyhow, I'll be out with some friends using your stuff like on the
waitresses when we go out. For instance, once the waitress asked to put my
left over hot wings in a to-go box. I said "Ok, but you better not put any
of my bones in there!" She said: "Ok, I'll put your bones in there then".
(obviously playing along) She comes back and I check the box right in front
of her and say: "Let's see if there's bones in here...hmm" But she knew I
was playing. So, it comes time for me to pay the bill and she hands me my
bill but as I reach for it, she holds onto it and wont give it to me, then
she finally does. She says: "Are you ready to pay?" And I said: "Be patient!
Geez, all you women want is my money...where are the normal women at?" My
friend next to me says: "What are you doing? Dont say that! Thats mean!" (he
and people that say that obviously dont "get it"...he tried to get her
attention by being nice ad offering her gifts earlier and it didnt work) I
knew it worked because on my way out she stopped to say "bye". I didnt get
her digits because I wasn't interested but I said to myself..."Boy, this
stuff works!" I was happy too because at first I was blind, but now I can
see, halleluah and amen!
I felt so good, I just wanted to share that with you, hopefully help some of
our other guys out there. Thanks Dave! GT from TN
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Yeahhhh baby. Now you're starting to understand what's going on. Here's a
quick story for you...
I was in Phoenix this weekend visiting some good friends of mine. We went
out to a restaurant together. There were seven of us total. We were all
sitting in a huge booth, and I was all the way on the inside. In other
words, I was as far as I could have been from the waitress, and I had to
yell over everyone else at the table to talk to her.
She walked up to the table to take our drink order. She was wearing this
dark outfit... I think her shirt was dark green, and her skirt was black.
With it, she had on a PINK BELT. So just as she walks up, before anyone had
a chance to say ANYTHING to her, I yelled out: "I really like the way your belt ties the whole outfit together." Of course, I said it in a sarcastic tone.
Now, most of the people at the table (all guys) didn't even get it. They
just kind of smiled and looked at me with the "What was that?" look. As the
evening went on, I continued to make fun of her whenever I could (keep in
mind, I had to yell over everyone to do it, and when I was making fun of
her, everyone at the table had to hear it). By the way, this girl was 20 years old, and pretty cute.
Now, as the evening went on, most of the guys at the table started to get a
little bit nervous about what I was doing. I mean, this girl was actually
starting to act like she was upset a few times at what I said to her. I was
really pushing the envelope.
Toward the end of the meal, the guy sitting across from me began to ask me
questions about what I do. Another friend of mine had told him that I write
about women and dating, and he wanted to hear about some of my theories.
This particular gentleman is a very successful businessman. He's been a
millionaire for over 20 years, as it turns out. I began by explaining to him
that most guys tend to "kiss up" to women, chase them around, and do things
to demonstrate that they're "nice"... but that most men never consider the
fact that women feel a powerful emotional and physical ATTRACTION to
something totally different.
I told him that the thing that made women feel ATTRACTION was often teasing,
busting on, and being difficult with women... ...and I went on to share some of my other theories with him.
At one point, I even told him that if you have the guts to ANTAGONIZE a
women in a playful way, you can sometimes make her feel such a powerful
attraction to you that she doesn't even know what to do. This guy was
looking at me as if I was CRAZY. He was watching me tease this waitress, and
seeing her act upset and offended at the things I was saying. He was totally
convinced that what I was doing was making this girl HATE me.
All the other guys at the table were convinced of the same thing. Even my
friends who KNEW me didn't think that this girl liked me. So what happened?
At the end of the meal, after she brought over the check, she walked around
the end of the booth so she could talk to me alone... Then she reached over,
pulled my hair... AND HANDED ME A NOTE WITH HER NUMBER. No, I didn't ask for it. No, I wasn't even interested in her. Of course, all the guys at the table were stunned... ESPECIALLY the older
successful guy sitting across from me that thought I was crazy. It was a
good time. Thought you'd enjoy the story...
***QUESTION***
I have been reading your mailbags for quite
sometime now and after reading your book, I'm a
little confused. You always said not to be a wuss,
but you mentioned in your ebook about opening doors
and pulling out chairs and doing other nice things
when you go for coffee or something. Isn't that
being a wuss? Please break it down for me. J Chicago, IL
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Great question.
Let me explain.
There is a concept known as "Chivalry".
Now, there is much debate about what chivalry
actually MEANS...
But most people describe chivalry loosely as
"Being a perfect gentleman, demonstrating perfect
manners, and acting courteous towards women".
Incidentally, the word was originally a French
word that meant "horseman", and it has a lot of
associations with knighthood.
The image of a dark, handsome knight coming to
rescue a princess who is in distress will give
you an idea of how it all fits together.
Now, the PROBLEM comes when men begin to
CONFUSE "chivalry" with "ass kissing".
You've probably heard me say that most women
know EXACTLY what "sexual tension" is, and
most men have no idea.
Same thing is true when it comes to chivalry.
Most women know EXACTLY what it is, and most
men are so confused that they would actually
be better off if they knew NOTHING AT ALL.
If you could build a miracle device that
could magically go inside the minds of a
thousand women and create a picture of what
they all thought "chivalry" was, here's what
I think you'd find... An image of a strong, masculine, adventurous
man... one who needs nothing... one who is
very driven towards his own personal goals in
life... one who RADIATES sexual confidence... ...and then you'd see him doing certain things
like opening a door for a lady, pulling out
her chair, walking on the outside of the curb to protect her, etc.
What you WOULD NOT EVER see is a weak, ass-kissing, apologetic, unmotivated, approval-seeking man who is opening doors and pulling
out chairs to IMPRESS a woman.
Chivalry is ALL ABOUT the MAN doing the
chivalrous things, not about the things he's
doing.
In these newsletters you see a lot of letters
from guys who write in to say "I don't like
the idea of teasing women, being Cocky & Funny,
and all the other things you say. I'm a NICE
guy. What happened to being a GOOD GUY? What
happened to BEING YOURSELF and having a woman
like you for who you are?". I'll tell you what happened to it.
IT NEVER EXISTED.
It's a fantasy, just like the Easter Bunny,
dude.
Here's a riddle for you.
Why is it that when you always put your own
needs aside, put a woman on a pedestal, and
do whatever she wants, a woman is annoyed? And why is it that when you put your own
needs first, play "hard to get", and give
women a major CHALLENGE she says things
like "You're so nice"? Answer: WHO CARES!
The fact is that this is the reality we all
live in. And it's time to get with the
program, and do what works, rather than
sitting around telling yourself that you're
right and everyone else is wrong.
This was a great email... it probably deserves
a newsletter dedicated to this topic alone.
I'll see what the feedback is on this particular
comment, and maybe we'll do it sometime.
***COMMENT***
Your stories just seem 'too' tuned (made-up) to
tell 'men' what they want to hear. As you said
'men' are too nice therefore naive! I have my own
techniques and one things for sure - BEING TOO NICE
IS NOT THE WAY! (Only on ugly or desperate women,
right?) Yes!
At least give a few examples instead of telling
guys what they wanna hear.
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Bite me.
I don't tell guys "what they want to hear".
I tell guys what they NEED to hear.
I'm a pain in the ass, man.
And I don't really care whether or not you buy
my ebook. In fact, please don't. One thing that we both agree on... Being "too nice" isn't the way with women.
***SUCCESS STORY***
Dave,
I used the most simple technique to test your
methods and was absolutely AMAZED at the results. Simply put, I am in a bar and see a beautiful
blonde and say to her "I love the dress, but your
hair looks like s@#$". She immediately starts
playing with her hair and runs into the bathroom.
She comes out 20 minutes later and and asks me how
it looks now, which I say "better". She walks away
and talks to her friends, only to come back to me
10 minutes later to sit down and flirt with me.
After a while she goes back to talk to her friends,
and then comes back to me again and says "you are
adorable" and keeps staring at me. She was
absolutely 100% attracted to me. She kept looking
at me in a crazed sort of way that I NEVER
experienced after all of those years being a
"nice guy". A beautiful woman was practically
stalking me and all I ever said was that her
hair looked bad. That's all it took. THAT was
incredible!
EK St. Petersburg, FL
>>>MY COMMENTS:
lol... You know, I'm afraid that this newsletter is
going to have guys running out all over the
world to insult women.
If you're reading this right now, make sure you
are VERY FAMILIAR with the principles of being
Cocky & Funny, the voice tone and body language
involved, etc. before you attempt to use it.
If you choose to avoid this advice, you're very
likely to get yourself slapped. ...which is probably what you need anyway. Where do you learn this stuff? Try my eBook.
By the way, great story. It's CRAZY how women
will start telling you how "sweet" and "cute"
and "nice" you are when you tease them.
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I've spent YEARS figuring out this area of
my life for MYSELF. I took the time to try
all kinds of crazy ideas, and test everything
I learned.
Most of it didn't work.
Most of it sucked.
I wasted more time trying stupid things than
anyone I know.
But the good news is that I figured it out.
I took myself from not being able to even walk
over and talk to a woman to being able to date
the most beautiful and intelligent women alive.
And now I've created the programs that I WISH
I had when I started.
I'm serious about this.
And it seems to be working pretty well.
You can download my eBook here:
http://www.doubleyourdating.com
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